Interview with Nick Ochs on the Boogaloo
Today I have done a lot of outreach. More than I am usually up for. Nicholas Ochs invited me to an interview today, I wanted to mention to Nick’s audience some of my recent experience on the Big Island in the form of Doxxing and other things, and to also share stories about the great things in Hawaii as well.
In case you are not aware (I also was not aware until today). Nick is running for office in Hawaii.
Nicholas Ochs (Republican Party) is running for election to the Hawaii House of Representatives to represent District 22. Ochs is on the ballot in the Republican primary on August 8, 2020.
https://ballotpedia.org/Nicholas_Ochs
Nick Ochs as been associated with the proud boys, and he asked me if I wanted to speak about my recent attention regarding the “Boogaloo” sticker in the back of my car.
The audio quality is terrible. I downloaded the original live feed and slightly improved the audio. But it is still difficult to hear and understand on my end. Nick’s mic is great. So you can at least hear and understand half of the conversation. It did seem like when Nick muted his side, the audio on my end was better. In the video below is the full interview.
So the main things that Nick and I have in common is that we both had an idea to run for public office this year.
I wish we had talked more about it. But apparently in late 2019 when Nick had started talking about running for office. He experienced a sever amount of doxxing and harassment. This is very similar to my experience this year, because as soon as I announced that I was running for office, the harassment and doxxing started. Even before my vehicle arrived from Washington state, with a sticker on it that said “Boogaloo”. My vehicle only got here less than two weeks ago. But the harassment online started on May 28th when I announced that I had gotten nomination papers to run for County Council District 4 public office.
I did not get on the ballot, as most of my signatures came from Kona, because I was in Kona for a “Re-Open Hawaii” rally and then a meeting with Melody Stone to learn more about how to deter sex trafficking on big island.
At first there were just posts going around that “The Boogaloo bois were in town” but they hadn’t associated it to me yet. For a few days the posts continued. But around June 13th, they were starting to post pictures of my home, and my address, my face, my vehicles and my license plates. On June 16th I had an officer contact me from the HPD and they asked me if I knew the person that posted a photo of an active police officer.
I have been banned from both of the Facebook groups that were doxxing me, because during the Jennifer Ruggles Townhall meeting, when I had disagreed with Dr. David Sai about Hawaiian history, some of the more vocal pro-Sovereignty people complained that I was being “political”. So I didn’t know much about what was going on in there. I eventually had to make a second account to check. There was hundreds of comments. I expanded the comment threads and printed the comments into a PDF, because it appeared to be a sever amount of threats and plans to do harm floating around.
So Nick and I spoke about how we both experienced doxxing for political reasons, and it appears Civil Beat has recently wrote a new article on the Proud Boys. Which appears to not be flattering. And despite that they call it a “White Supremacist group”, there is a picture of Nick Ochs with his fresh “Proud Boys” tattoo, and his Ethnically Hawaiian friend who is also sporting a new “Proud Boys” tattoo.
I wish I had gotten to ask Nick more questions, but my mic was broken. Nick is the very first Proud Boy that I have spoken too. I didn’t realize until that call, that he has a black wife and child.
I wanted to ask more about the cause and the direction of the proud boys.
I have written about the Proud Boys, and the “skinheads of my youth” a few times.
So I am very interested proud boys. I think there are other proud boys, that also use this “Boogaloo meme”.
This is basically what was on my car except for the Igloo was replaced with an AR-15 on my car.
I have also for many years been active in Anti-Racism causes. I had the acronym S.P.E.A.R. tattooed on my since I was 16 or 17 years old. It is a club that I started as a kid. It means “Skins and Punks Everywhere Against Racism“
I have these pins to give out. I have given them away all over the world though, so I am down to my last 5.
If anyone writes me at Disruptarian@outlook.com I will send you one of my last 5 free pins (first come first serve).
You can order your own custom lapel pins, bottle cap openers, or coins at: www.cloviscoin.com
Custom Challenge Coins
Anyway, I want to thank Nicolas Ochs for his service, and for his willingness to serve once again as a House Representative for the state of Hawaii. I feel Nicolas his a good man for the job based on our converastion today.
This is Nick Och’s channel at DLive, I recommend listening.
https://dlive.tv/TheOchsReport
This is my channel on Youtube about the Boogaloo: Specific video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7gMdRn-mso
Also this is the latest article from Civil beat. https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/06/chad-blair-did-you-hear-about-the-white-supremacists-in-aloha-shirts/
A good graphic from the older Civil Beat article is this:
This was my comments (still pending approval) on the Civil Beat;
From: Ryan Thompson
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:18 AM
To: news@civilbeat.org, cblair@civilbeat.org
Subject: Re: Proud Boys Hawaii, corrections
I would like to point out an interview that I did with a local proud boy in Oahu (Nicholas Ochs) today. This dispels a lot of inaccuracies in your article about the “boogaloo” meme. I also think it fills in other gaps.
The interview is posted on my personal blog. . But there is a lot of inaccuracies in this article to address.
- Anyone can claim to be with “BLM”.
- And anyone can repost this “boogaloo meme”
- There is no filter in either side. Which is why it is not an “organization” since there is no membership.
You can’t possibly claim ALL Black Lives Matter protesters are violent or immoral, just because there are a few bad apples.
Same thing with people resharing this Boogaloo meme.
It means different things to different people.
Reference to my blog post and radio interview today with Nicholas Oaks
So far I have not filed a police report, althought it is really creepy with a bunch of random people driving past my house taking pictures while I have young children playing outside.
But I have sent cease and desist orders to all of the involved parties.
On June 16th I was contacted by an officer of HPD, because someone in one these groups that I am banned from, has been sharing pictures of a police officer. The HPD wanted to know what was going on. I told him that I had sent a list of the people spreading slander about me, to Prosecutor Mitch Roth on his campaign page on facebook, and I thought that he was contacting me about my contact with Mitch Roth. But apparently they were doing a different investigation about some internet activity.
The officer advised me to contact the groups on social media and send them information with a cease and desist request.
I sent over 25 people this information about cyber stalking, and insisted that they cease and desist, as they are putting lives in danger.
United States
History, current legislation
Cyberstalking is a criminal offense under American anti-stalking, slander, and harassment laws.
A conviction can result in a restraining order, probation, or criminal penalties against the assailant, including jail. Cyberstalking specifically has been addressed in recent U.S. federal law. For example, the Violence Against Women Act, passed in 2000, made cyberstalking a part of the federal interstate stalking statute. The current US Federal Anti-Cyber-Stalking law is found at 47 U.S.C. § 223.
Still, there remains a lack of federal legislation to specifically address cyberstalking, leaving the majority of legislative at the state level. A few states have both stalking and harassment statutes that criminalize threatening and unwanted electronic communications. The first anti-stalking law was enacted in California in 1990, and while all fifty states soon passed anti-stalking laws, by 2009 only 14 of them had laws specifically addressing “high-tech stalking.” The first U.S. cyberstalking law went into effect in 1999 in California. Other states have laws other than harassment or anti-stalking statutes that prohibit misuse of computer communications and e-mail, while others have passed laws containing broad language that can be interpreted to include cyberstalking behaviors, such as in their harassment or stalking legislation.
Sentences can range from 18 months in prison and a $10,000 fine for a fourth-degree charge to ten years in prison and a $150,000 fine for a second-degree charge. States with cyberstalking legislation
- Alabama, Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, New Hampshire, and New York have included prohibitions against harassing electronic, computer or e-mail communications in their harassment legislation.
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